Hunting and Fishing in NJ - A forum for NJ Hunters and NJ Anglers

What I find fascinating is that every person on this forum has been offered the opportunity to speak with me personally before pontificating that the sky is falling - yet no one posting here has done so. .

Fred hasn't taken the time to speak with me of Senator Adler. We all know that there is two sides to every story (in this case maybe three) so how can people let themselves be blinded by one side?

Most people want to have all the facts available before making a decision, they want to see an issue from all sides before making a determination - why not here?

What is the motive of a person(s) that refuse to fully examine an issue and then presents their one-sided opinion to others? What is the motive of those that allow themselves to be so easily manipulated?

People have the chance to type all the destructive, biased, uninformed pablum they want on forums. That doesn't make it right and we certainly wouldn't stand for it if it was being directed at ourselves or our someone we care about. So why are people allowing it to be done by Fred?

What is Fred's motive for all of his misinformed bashing of the NJOA? Why doesn't he try to find out the truth before tearing down the things that took a lot of effort to create? Why are there those that blindly follow someone so misinformed?

What do we think of people that go on crusades without knowing all of the facts? Isn't that what emotional people do? Isn't that exactly what we accuse the antis of doing?

This thread is obviously nothing more than a modern day internet "witch hunt" or "lynching." FYI - people were beginning to see Fred for what he is on another forum and some of those people have contacted me. They may not necessarily agree with the NJOA decision - but they have a much better understanding of the issues involved.

If people want to know the truth they may contact me: [email protected] I will provide you with my phone number. We are not lemmings, we don't have to follow a guy off a ledge before we realize that he misguided.

Being a part of a mob mentality become a noble thing?


Ant

I don't think people want to speak to Adler for the fact is his stance on the bear hunt and gun control, those are facts that can't be denied, so why talk? Will it be typical POLITICIAN BS.

Just post the reasons why NJOA backs Adler, if people like the reasons or not you did what you feel is the correct thing

He has conceded a point on gun control and offerd to re-examine the bear hunt. These are not the complete set of issues. But you haven't called him to ask his position have you? You've prejudiced yourself and drank Fred's "kool-ade." That's what the Jone's followers did. Blindly followed someone who was disenfranchised, believed his every word to the point that they drank poison in order to follow their leader on some psychotic journey.

You want the truth about issues contact me - or drink the kool-ade, it's your choice. My views are expressed in my previous post.

Ant

I haven't drank Fred's Kool-Aid, still waiting for his famous buffalo wings

I go on the facts, Adler doesn't support the bear hunt , that to me means all types of hunting, and doesn't support guns, therefore he is trying to take away two things that I and many of us love. How can I and others support him or anyone with those views?

You support Adler, and I respect your views, I just can't support a person who doesn't support hunters and gun owners

You support Adler, and I respect your views, I just can't support a person who doesn't support hunters and gun owners

Thank you. Fair enough answer.

I've had a beer with Fred but know enough not to drink his kool-ade.

I assume that you're an NRA member (I am too.) If not, join the NRA & ANJRPC. They are the organizations that protect our second amendment rights. FYI - the NJOA is a conservation organization. We advance the interests of anglers, hunters, trappers and forest/marine conservationists.

Ant

to say that its a modern day lynching ant is unreal on your part...i just stated what is known from the the myers camp..you have on this site and the other one disrespected me ,insulted me,and made a mockery of me. go back to my first post i said the njoa made a mistake on this one..you already stated what adler supported now and i posted what myers supports now and later. you have shown me what kind of man you are on the other site by your last couple of posts.if someone doesnt agree with you and stand by you,you have to demean them. i am not taking away the good the NJOA has done but this to me and i can have an opinion was a wrong move