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ub1243 wrote:

but any new tool for jersey trapper could be put to use. some guys have a heck of a time getting a leash on a k9 or coon. right mark

That was low C'mon now I did leash a fox!! You just wait till this fall I'll be putting up the numbers and giving you a run for your $$$.....well maybe not

heres a video of a foot snare. I'm not sure about what name it is but basically the same.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9n1gMvOfyrc

that wasn't a cheap shot. you had a tough time catching fur with snares. i've been there and still have slow times. but the addition of a new tool may keep first year trappers for future seasons if they catch more. and the lil griz it the trap. coon aren't hard to catch. sometimes hard to snare though. a griz is as easy as a cage, but small, cheaper and easier to hide.
mark i hope you do put up some numbers this year. don't over do it, the put up sneaks up on you.

computers sometimes hide the sarcasm thats intended

I think I'm being harder on myself than I should. I mean I only had a month to trap last yr. And with that only had a dozen or so snares hanging at any given time. It might be a little high but I'm setting this yrs goal at 20 coon and say 5 fox red/gray combined. Any other animal I catch is a bonus, although I'd really like to get a skunk pelt for the wall.(crazy as it sounds) I have 2 leads down here for 2 different albino skunks people told me about. And another with a wide beautiful white stripe from head to tail.
I should have the entire season to trap. I did find some more locations down here than just the one spot I trapped last yr. Plus I have a whole bunch of places to trap up in Hunterdon County. I find that the sign up there is soooo much easier to find than down here in the sandy soil. Its just 2 hrs away. I'll spend a week at a time up there hanging leashes.

Only time will tell.....is it November yet?

It might be a little high but I'm setting this yrs goal at 20 coon and say 5 fox red/gray combined.

you can do that. i caught that many coon in a month.
me and ron spent a month or so set for reds, and didn't connect. we were pm'ing back and forth on quackers trying to figure out what the heck we were doing wrong. broadhead(quackers) had caught about 6 reds in a week, and thought we lost it.
what happend was broadhead hit them early and found them, i had one thanksgiving week. then distemper hit around us. killed 95% of our reds. we got hit hard the year before with mange, it killed 75% of what we had that year. so we were set for nothing for at least a month. by the time we relized what was going on we lost a lot of time.
then we switched over to coon. i'm not a coon guy, never wanted to bother with them, always sold them round. but they were the only thing going besides a few grey. the coyotes holed up on a property that none of us could trap. it was a tough year. i had trouble, ron did, stiks did real bad, braodhead hit them early then switched to mink after hearing our problems, but his fur wasn't prime.
don't get caught up on numbers. sometimes it's not you, just the animals numbers are down. ron told me on years like that it will show you just how good you aren't. if you can catch that one red that is left great, but it won't be easy. also think about leaving that one red for seed and try again next year.
i'm seeing more k9's this year out there then we had for the last couple years. but i think i'll never run just a k9 line now. i really liked putting up the coon. now if i can get my basement to look like this i think i have arived as a coon trapper.


to get your numbers up you need to sread out a little. private land is great, but look at the county culverts. if your not stepping on private land you can do the culverts.

i know you have tide issues, but find those dry culverts. you can hid your traps and the coon walk them every night. newt hits them hard ,real hard. problem is your in the public eye. did you ever see the pictures of newts magnet he puts on his truck door? east coast bridge inspector, he wears a hard hat and a orange vest. he's so visable no one can see him.
if you can hide the trap, hide you setting, and use a grain bag to bring out the dispatched animal, you got it. not many people around down there during the off season, there has got to be tons of places. how about near the campground dumpsters, they feed there all summer, now it's slimm pickings. i catch coon near a campground dumpster near me. do some thinking when you drive around. the places are right in front of you, your just not seeing them yet.

trappers in nj? or state trappers?

The state trappers (wildlife control)

GG,
redneck was over last night for a couple hours. we talked about the leg snares.
his take is, within 50' of water you could set one with 1/16th or smaller cable, this is legal for mink and rats, but if your incidental is a fox or coon, great. your loop just has to be 4" or smaller and no deer stop.
he also stated you may get a ticket for this because we are to use 5/64 or larger for k9 and coon. but the incidentals theory may throw a flag.
he thinks a co may give you a ticket for them, but you will win in court.

there isn't anything saying you can't use them, BUT nothing saying you can use them, for what we want them for.

i think this is were andy is trying to get them in writing in the 09-10 rule book.

to me it's not worth the trouble debating a co in the woods. the co is right in some parts, we are right in other parts.

Joe:

I believe that the prevailing wind is no to Belisle, but Aldrich foot snares are acceptable (that's what the Division uses in its Bear Research). Collarums are also acceptable. Not sure about power foot snares such as Ram - can't seem to find anything in the Game Code either for or against their use.

this is what i got back from andy.