How "exactly" (in Your OPINION) are they putting anything ahead of the animals or NJ Hunters???
Did you not hear the councilwoman say SHE did her own survey at a bow show and the Vast Majority were FOR Full Inclusion? (yet another survey proving what most want).....
Now WE have (at least) Three different surveys showing MAJORITY SUPPORT for full inclusion..........so NO point "in acting like" anyone is getting "shafted" (pun intended)....
As for the animals, AGAIN with NJ BOW Hunters having > 51% success rates (about double the average of the Eastern US) you're going to have a VERY hard time "selling" that load......
With all due respect
YOU "talk about" things being "just like six day" after full inclusion but can't back up that claim (scare tactic) with one shred of data from anywhere......period...
THAT is the whole problem with your side's stance (and has been all along), WE have the real hard data ALL supporting our claims.......we Can prove the truth, and how it's not only a good thing for ALL but in fact a "win-win" for ALL INVOLVED
FACT #1
Joe Mills seemed totally unprepared and didn't give much of a talk(or should I say "reading")...OR ANY good or valid reasons to NOT include crossbows, in FACT he couldn't even answer the questions the Council asked HIM about HIS PRESENTATION!!
FACT #2
NO one else from the ANTI CrossBOW side even bothered to speak......pretty hard to convince the F&G Council of anything when you have NOTHING on your side to support your stance.......and NO one willing to voice their reason(s) for opposition .........F&G Council can Not consider what they don't hear, and it's absurd to expect them to do so.....(IMO)
THAT is the real WHOLE TRUTH of what "went down", NO "corruption", FACT is there were NO good or valid reasons given to NOT include crossbows in all bow seasons for everyone.....period
TRY to "blame others", (yet YOU didn't even speak out for what YOU desire).......make bogus accusations and allegations on the F&G Council, but KNOW this, many were there and witnessed the TRUTH....
IF one "sets out" to try to make their case, they should do so in a PROFESSIONAL Manner (which Joe Mills did NOT accomplish) should NOT insult those making the rules (which HE DID when he stated he was wasting HIS time ---(what about THEIR time???)
Should be FULLY prepared to "back up" his claims (which he WAS NOT prepared to do at All) ....
EVERY ONE of you folks on the "other side" (of this one issue) were FULLY AWARE that WE had given the the REAL facts and Hard DATA , for them to consider.......
WE did NOT try to "hide this" (even though some would say this is chess and not checkers) YOUR side was not "blindsided" or unaware of that fact At All.....
That FACT being well known Many(Most?) would expect the PRESIDENT of UBNJ to be fully prepared and professional, NO question that he was neither......
NO.......it's NOT TRUE, that "their minds were made up" , but it may very well be true NOW.......
"I" agree for
QUALITY bucks NJ needs to make some serious changes (and IMO the sooner the better) THAT isn't going to happen though because those WHO COULD help get it done are too busy fighting THEIR OWN KIND, Calling names and insulting THE VERY FOLKS who make those very changes.........(the NJ F&G Council)......OTHER Really Important issues WILL arise in the very near future.........TRY to keep that fact in mind for YOUR OWN GOOD....
On another note:
Crossbows have NOTHING to do with ANY Olympic Training Centers PERIOD....(or whether the Eastern one ends up in NJ)..........TOTALLY unrelated issue (as MOST everything that some "try to use" against full inclusion, ) yet one more "smokescreen" MORE "Smoke and mirrors" to rile folks up with NO proof, not one shred of evidence EVER to support these fictitious claims.....
Crossbows (and compounds also) ARE NOT ALLOWED in the Olympics.......PERIOD
So the Totally False allegations ANY of this is "because of that" or anything similar have NOT been PROVEN because they CAN'T be proven.........simple as that!