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I was wondering if anyone has be looking at crossbows at the stores and if so which ones they thought suited them the best?

I went with the parker only because you get more bang for your buck atleased for me . I picked the parker buckbuster 150lb draw, 305 fps, 8lbs came out to 499.99 i also liked that it came with limb savers and sound dampering stock. Lets not forget lifetime warrenty on the limbs.

I guess we all know what I like

bowtech Stryker is a good bow I just couldn't afford one of those. good luck with it.

none they are for lazy people who dont want to learn archery

Fred IF that's true (and we all know it's not) then there must be MANY " lazy people who don't want to learn archery" in NJ as MOST support full crossbow inclusion....

So you're certainly insulting a great many folks some of whom you may very well NEED on your side on some issue in the future........hmmm imagine how that could backfire (again)

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Fred IF that's true (and we all know it's not) then there must be MANY " lazy people who don't want to learn archery" in NJ as MOST support full crossbow inclusion....

So you're certainly insulting a great many folks some of whom you may very well NEED on your side on some issue in the future........hmmm imagine how that could backfire (again)

He'll NEVER learn Jim. Just sad. Fred, you really don't even care.

Been thinking on getting an Excalibur Vixen, whether I actually hunt with it or just shoot targets with it, but most likely won't be til next year. Have had much encouragement from many other Excal users, as well. Have checked out a few and think this will be my choice, when the time comes.

well i love my new matthews DXT and would choose that over anything... as you already now dave.... but like we also spoke of when i do give the xbow a tryout for those special occasions i thing i will go with a parker... resonable priced and pretty reliable... i dont wanna spend alot of money on a duxt collector... but i would like something that is good enough to go shootin with you and keith for fun and some hunts....

your right jim exactly what you said the people that want it are lazy and im saying it again

no kathy you'll never get it until you hunt in nj which i will bet you never will

11pointer wrote:no kathy you'll never get it until you hunt in nj which i will bet you never will

Talking about YOU making accusations regarding the Federation and Council and insulting people has nothing to do whether "I" hunt or not.

11pointer wrote:your right jim exactly what you said the people that want it are lazy and im saying it again

no kathy you'll never get it until you hunt in nj which i will bet you never will

Fred.......

YOU are totally NOT qualified to speak for ME........

I do NOT agree and that is in NO doubt...........

BTW, IF what YOU are talking about on NJH IS what I think it is ............

I'm not surprised, but will waste (once again) MY TIME warning you folks............

It's by far the worst idea yet (and THAT is saying a GREAT DEAL)

I KNOW it IS what I "think it is" and I'm telling you ALL (based on real experience you WILL regret it (either way it goes).........

Let's "recount" shall we.....

Crossbow companies wanted this NOT NJ hunters......

FALSE

AT LEAST HALF THE UBNJ membership supports this...

The MAJORITY of the Federation supports this.......(full inclusion)

THAT is NOT counting the NJ F&G Council's survey which also shows MAJORITYH support

It IS PAST TIME to believe that most support YOUR SELFISH agenda..........ALL of you folks NEED to "get it"....

YOU ARE FIGHTING YOUR OWN KIND........

IF you (whomever you are) have NO PROBLEM with that, well, you have much more serious issues than "I" can help you with.........

But hey at least "I" have tried..

YOU FOLKS ..........

ONLY care about WHAT YOU WANT.......

NOT what most want

NOT what is best FOR OUR VERY FUTURE...........

MOST KNOW THIS FACT

SO ............you should "perhaps" realize what you're talking about doing here Fred.........

IS it "worth that" to TRY to DICTATE to the majority??

NO.........

WHY don't you folk see that simple little fact???

MOST do not (and WILL NOT) agree with your stance........

PAST TIME to accept that reality and HOPE you folks can still work for what's BEST FOR ALL OF NJ sportsmen/women NOT JUST WHAT "YOU" Desire............

Fred THEY won't "touch this" NO matter how much some try to convince you otherwise........STILL the "danger" in asking IS there.........

For a VERY long time now some have been feeding YOU "horse turds" convincing YOU that it's really caviar..........

"I" have told you EXACTLY WHAT WOULD HAPPEN.........NOT because I'm some "insider" because "I" have dealt with pro hunting issues for almost as long as YOU have lived........

I KNOW what I speak of or "I" don't speak.......

I have been lied on, while being called a liar..........YET "I" didn't back down, NO proof of "my lies" was ever given..........WHY??

A word to the wise is more than sufficient..............but wasted on selfish folks I suppose........

Let me be CLEAR here (and let's be honest )

"I" have NOTHING to gain OR lose with crossbows in NJ...........

So perhaps (just MAYBE) "I" AM in this for the future of what I LOVE..........give that some REAL consideration Fred.........

THE UBNJ could NOT push folks around...........(as promised)

THE Federation did NOT back the UBNJ (as I predicted)

WHAT (exactly) Fred have "I" stated (as an "outsider" who "knows nothing about NJ") that was NOT TRUE or totally factual?

Better yet WHAT prediction have "I' been wrong on???

Think about what "I" am saying here (and NO I'm NOT "bragging" at all)

I have decades of experience in these matters.......does Doug.......Joe Mills.......

Better question.............were they correct in THEIR STANCE or not??


"I" begged for unity from the very beginning (and to be fair Fred YOU were NOT there then or involved at all)

SO let's ALL cut the BS........

NJ sportsmen/women WANT this.........NJ F&G Council HAVE heard them , researched it and ACTED ON FACTS AND DATA (as well as popular demand)..........

You see Fred I KNOW that YOU are smart enough to NOW realize what I said about the UBNJ "dropping the ball" (and that in reality IS what got ME banned on NJH ) WAS IN FACT TOTALLY TRUE........

I don't expect you (or anyone ) to EVER admit it..........but we BOTH KNOW that UBNJ LOST thousands of $$$ by NOT handling this issue correctly.........

THAT was worth getting banned for (to me ) I have NO regrets.........

I did MY BEST to avoid that.............for what .........

To get banned by a bunch of UBNJ Rep MODS.............

Maybe they're right NO one will see through them..............



Or maybe not..........

MAYBE................

MOST seen what "I" said.............and KNOW that "I" got banned for ONLY speaking the truth NEVER violated ANY posted rules( but violated "unposted rules" e.g. thou shalt NOT DARE speak the truth of the UBNJ "leadership" doing what THEY want and desire DESPITE WHAT THE DUES PAYING MEMBERS say.........but those members PAY FOR REPRESENTATION...............PERIOD

So Fred..........

GO to THEM...........

When you get NOWHERE(which you will) and "I" make sure EVERYONE knows what you folks backed (it was bad enough UBNJ Reps would back ANTI HUNTERS on NJH)...........

We will see HOW that also backfires...............

IOW time (past time again) to let IT GO................

Seriously

there is NO way to keep on now and NOT DESTROY yourselves........

When you "thought" you could convince folks that most didn't support this ........welll you "may" have been able to fool "some folks" NOW however you're ONLY showing EVERYONE you don't care WHAT THEY WANT ............ONLY WHAT YOU FEW WANT...........and WILL do ANYTHING to TRY to get "your way" and "I" can assure you.............THEY won't back you folks over they VAST MAJORITY

THEY want (and need ) VOTES................."get it"????????

I know you do and YOU Fred realize that I have NO reason to lie to you.........

Buy maybe (perhaps) I AM giving you "too much credit"??????????