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wow . i look at this crossbow thing as no big deal.

El Jefe wrote:Its a shame what has happen to our State in regards to hunting. It was not enough that the deer herds are being wiped out in hunt able areas, they now throw another weapon into the all ready boiling pot. The best part of it all is the "BLEACHER CREATURES" and the "ANTIS" who ruined it for the rest of us. When I refer to Antis I'm also refereeing to those selfish individuals who jump on the X-bow wagon for what ever self satisfaction, if it was for monetary reasons or just because they had nothing else to do but create misery It is also amusing how lately is always the same rhetoric from out of State hunters and non participating individuals who think they are helping the hunters by preaching how we are fighting among ourselves. To that I say BS over and over again.
Two years from now we will have a 30 day fall bow season of course X-bows which are now called bows, with earn a buck throwing into the mixture, and if we are lucky and we suck up to the DFW a 20 day extended season. I give it two years when you will see the declined of license sells, and DFW trying to regroup and get things back on track. I feel sorry for all you guys that are staying behind. I will leave the door open so the exodus from NJ won't stop.

Hi Tony. Real enemy are the real ANTIs and you know it. As far as the "out of state" reference, ANTI groups like HSUS and PETA are Nationwide, so what happens in this state is also reflected elsewhere. NJ hunters also hunt in other states and vice versa. Hunters should NOT be fighting amongst themselves, is true. I assure you there was NO monetary gain and if the remark about having nothing to do was for me, I have so much to do, there aren't enough hours in the day. Do you even realize that I have been and am instrumental in helping with hunting issues that you support? You have NO clue how much I donate to NJOA and other groups. You have NO idea how many phone calls and emails I take the time to send. I've been helping for several years and am in touch with my legislatures. The ONLY issue we disagree on is crossbows!! Am sorry you have become so angry over this. I wish you well, and perhaps one day we can meet again and enjoy a nice conversation over a cup of coffee or something. In the meantime, good luck to you and hope all is good with your family.
Kathy

I envy you, Tony for getting out of this state. Too much corruption in NJ. (People, take that statement and apply it at will). I would but in my career I have to be close to a major city. NYC is where it all happens in my business. Good luck buddy. I'll make sure I see you before you leave... YOU LUCKY B@stard.

The best part of it all is the "BLEACHER CREATURES" and the "ANTIS" who ruined it for the rest of us. When I refer to Antis I'm also refereeing to those selfish individuals who jump on the X-bow wagon for what ever self satisfaction, if it was for monetary reasons or just because they had nothing else to do but create misery It is also amusing how lately is always the same rhetoric from out of State hunters and non participating individuals who think they are helping the hunters by preaching how we are fighting among ourselves. To that I say BS over and over again.

To ALL of that ^ "I" say BS "over and over again"!!

Exactly HOW can you explain this "deer herds are being wiped out" in NJ when BOW hunters have an > 50% success rate? (that's higher than ANY other state) IF they're being wiped out (as you claim as fact) HOW can the success rate for bow hunters be higher than all other states?

Also let ME remind YOU that NJ has FEDERAL land in it so your "Bleacher Creatures" and "out of state" folks have a say in things whether you may or may not like that Fact it IS still a fact........

I find it silly and pretentious of you to come on and make statements and personal opinions as facts and even more so when the FIRST crossbow included season hasn't even happened yet ( I'm NOT surprised since you obviously ignore facts and relevant data that shows how wrong you're going to be)

According to you allowing ONE more choice of bow "ruined it for the rest of us" LMAO......

HOW is it "so ruined"? Can't YOU now do exactly what you did last season, SURE you can (and will) The ONLY thing you lost was your foolish self centered battle and now you are moving from NJ because of crossbows, good luck PA has them , NY WILL have them soon, in fact VERY soon because of DATA , just like compounds ALL 50 states WILL have them for all.........As more state's data is made available the FACTS become clear the "doom and gloom" is a selfish bunch of LIES to try to (of all things) Keep Other Fellow HUNTERS out of a public season with a weapon with identical success rates as an already legal weapon (the compound bow).........The ONLY "misery" you have is self induced in believing you could perpetuate such a sham on your own kind (NJ Bow hunters) IMO

they had nothing else to do but create misery

What I want to know is this:

HOW is what OTHER fellow bow hunters hunting with (crossbows or compounds, recurve or longbow ) causing YOU "such misery".....

Do YOU actually define yourself based upon what OTHERS do?

Tony you can (and have) call me anything you wish, I have VERY thick skin and your silly antics don't phase me one bit, I told you all a long time ago HOW this would go and more importantly WHY that it would........

In YOUR "two years" you're going to find out JUST how wrong you and your kind have been, I'm guessing that is the Real Reason for getting out ......

I'll say it again........

Since they have IDENTICAL success rates, IF compounds haven't ruined NJ bow seasons crossbow inclusion CAN NOT EITHER , and that is just a simple FACT!

Good ole ACE.

Boy, Dubs....you're even a putz on this site!!!!

missedabiggun wrote:Boy, Dubs....you're even a putz on this site!!!!

Boy, Dubs....you're even a putz on this site!!!!

typical procrossbow name calling. You are sad group of people.

Dubs wrote:

Boy, Dubs....you're even a putz on this site!!!!

typical procrossbow name calling. You are sad group of people.

That's TOTALLY funny coming from YOU (and your side) it wasn't OUR side that called other fellow hunters, "Lazy, slobs, cheaters" or crossBOWS crossguns, etc. OR the F&G Council members WHORES.......accused them of taking bribes with NO proof at all........yeah I'd talk being on your side ALL you folks did was call names and flat out make stuff up!

WE didn't put down the larges majority of NJ hunters calling them "gunners" that was your side........it was YOUR SIDE Dubs that did 99.9% of the name calling and much to your dismay everyone knows this (whether you're smart enough to or not)

So when you mention "name calling" and mention our side, I'd suggest you take a LONG hard look in the mirror, or we might just past a bunch of stuff to make you eat your sorry arse words

Guess you didn't mean it when you said you were "done with this" either......

good ole, Ace